Continuing then with Chiron in Pisces through the houses:
7th House: With Chiron in Pisces here there are often difficulties within close relationships based upon an inability to set proper boundaries, a sense of being overwhelmed by relationship issues, or being taken for granted in your marriage or in other close partnerships. You may be deceived by your spouse or business partner, or alternatively you may be drawn to people whom you believe need rescuing. If you have Chiron in Pisces here then you may be attracted to artists, dreamers and lost-souls, or even those with drug, alcohol or other addiction problems, or those who suffer from depression. Because of the tendency to “outsource” any themes that are associated with the descendant, we may actually have disowned these tendencies in
Cobain experienced degenerative relationships
ourselves and found instead another person to embody those difficult Piscean qualities that we cannot admit to. With Chiron in Pisces here, there may be issues with the legal system relating to drugs, alcohol or an inability to cope. This position of Chiron gives a real ability for counselling, especially for marriage guidance and relationship problems. An astrologer with Chiron in Pisces here could work well in synastry with an emphasis on those who have lost faith in their partnerships.
Kurt Cobain, with Chiron in Pisces in the 7th is a very good example of the placement. When he met his wife, Courtney Love she was already a regular user of heroin; Cobain gradually became a user himself and his gradual degeneration into addiction became a contributing factor in his eventual suicide. His relationship with Love was characterised with legal, law and drug problems, the birth of their child, Frances Bean, was attended by controversy since Love admitted to using heroin while pregnant and she and Cobain had to battle for custody of their daughter after she was removed from their care by welfare services.
8th House: Here, Chiron manifests as a struggle to survive through being unable to take control of our own destiny. Very often our fate seems to be in other people’s hands, not because we have necessarily failed to have an adequate vision for ourselves, but because issues of power in our lives have a habit of becoming tenuous, deceptive or illusory. Anyone with Chiron in Pisces here may feel as if events are overtaking them, that their destiny is running away with no thought for personal desires; often there are life and death struggles based upon an inability to take control of events. The confluence of Pisces and Scorpio in this house can similarly result in drug problems (as in the case of Robert Downey Jr. who admitted to having substance abuse problems from the age of 8!) or other issues of losing control (Pisces on Scorpio). This loss of control though can be through the influence of others – possibly parents or other authority figures – through financial difficulty – debt, obligation or living in hope of an eventual legacy. I have seen people with this placement who seem to have lost their free-will because they are in line for an inheritance one day – providing they live a dutiful life according to Aunt Flo’s vision (and rarely do the fates reward such limited ambition).
Indira Gandhi, India’s first female prime minister is an informative – if extreme – case. Her entire life, as the daughter of India’s most powerful political dynasty seemed to be mapped out; she associated with the power-players of Indian society: her own father was Prime Minister and she was closely associated with Mahatma Gandhi as well; with hindsight, she seemed destined to live her life at the behest of the power-brokers of India’s ruling elite from the day she was born until her eventual assassination when she was machine gunned by her own bodyguards at her home aged 66.
9th House: Chiron in PIsces in the 9th creates confusion, difficulty and a sense of yearning around philosophic, religious and humanitarian issues and aims, it no doubt also has the side-effect of making the conditions of life singularly chaotic and disorganised as well, due to the influence of Pisces on Sagittarius. In my view, however, this is one of the more comfortable placements for Chiron since a philanthropically motivated attitude will find some sympathy here, and may even prosper. This said, higher education may be beset by problems; uncertainty in determining the best subject for study may simply be the start of a whole raft of confusing distractions surrounding education. The native may well be their own worst enemy, wishing to study art one day and astronomy the next and feeling vaguely dissatisfied whatever their choice. In a similar vein, spiritual, religious or philosophic ideas may suffer the same confusing uncertainty; a Marxist
Adams: too visionary?
today and a Calvinist the next, there is an inability to settle, to stay fixed. A tendency to having far-reaching ideas is always present in Sagittarius or the 9th, but with Chiron in Pisces there is a distinct possibility that these ideas are misunderstood by others and misinterpreted often harshly or hurtfully; great effort needs to be made to ensure that ideas, creeds and philosophies are grounded, are rendered practical, because it is quite common for this placement to reach too high and lose credibility as a result.
The 6th President of the USA, John Adams, had Chiron in Pisces here and he displays many of the key themes of the placement. His childhood was disrupted out of a need to travel with his father, who was an American envoy to France and then the Netherlands. He therefore was required to spend long periods far from home and family. Upon winning the presidency in 1825 he immediately proposed a raft of ambitious reforms and proposals that failed to convince even his own supporters; his vision for office was dogged by doubts about his sense of proportion and reality. Many of his ideas were wonderfully philanthropic, but they jarred against the established opinions and social mores of his contemporaries. Another blow to Adams’ presidency was his generous policy toward Native Americans. Settlers on the frontier, who were constantly seeking to move westward, cried for a more expansionist policy. When the federal government tried to assert authority on behalf of the Cherokees, the governor of Georgia took up arms and the President’s credibility was further undermined. In hindsight, Adams’ policies were typically Chiron in Pisces in the 9th, far ahead of their time, but in the context of what was possible in that day and age, unrealistic and somewhat naive.
10th House: Here, Chiron in Pisces undermines all issues of status and standing in the world. One of the quirks of this placement that I have found is that very often natives suffer in their career ambitions as a direct result of the incompetence of others. It also creates a natural proficiency in health and medicinal careers and Chiron configured with the Midheaven – particularly by a tee square from Uranus opposing Chiron across the horizon – is present in several charts of astrologers, acupuncturists and other alternative health practitioners. Chiron alone in the 10th I find to be present in chiropractors (unsurprisingly), osteopaths and those who work more directly with physical structures in the body. For those with Chiron so placed that choose not to follow a healing profession, teaching is a good alternative. For everyone else, Chiron in Pisces here will create some element of confusion, and reputations may suffer as a result, usually through no fault of your own. Similarly, any attempt to garner status may be misconstrued or misinterpreted by others in the worst possible light. In the worst case, I have seen one person who worked hard for a charity organisation for several years only to discover that it was a façade that was dedicated to money-laundering, rather than its stated purpose of supplying foreign aid to Africa. These types of deceptions are entirely in keeping with this particular placement.
Orson Welles had Chiron in Pisces here and it is interesting to note the summary of his career (from Wikipedia): “In 1941, he co-wrote, directed, produced and starred in Citizen Kane, often chosen in polls of film critics as the greatest film ever made. The rest of his career was often obstructed by lack of funds, incompetent studio interference and other unfortunate occurrences, both during exile in Europe and brief returns to Hollywood.” This describes almost perfectly the ambience of Chiron in Pisces in the 10th.
11th House: Here, group dynamics cause considerable distress or at least confusion, and the need to be part of something can be undermining. If you have Chiron in Pisces here, it is possible that you may feel overwhelmed within a group, or that your identity is somehow lost or submerged as part of a greater dynamic; group activities that focus on negative Piscean themes need careful handling as well; thus parties where there are drugs or excessive alcohol ought to be treated with caution, as should mediumistic or questionable religious organisations. Cults and weird group obsessions are very prevalent under this influence. Similarly, reputations may be unfairly damaged within a group. Friends are especially difficult with this influence, maybe they are deceptive, or self-deceptive in a way that is damaging to you, or your needs from a friendly relationship are somehow not met, or you acnnot seem to express your feelings and instead you get treated like a doormat by your friends.
Laurent Blanc, the great French centre-half is an interesting example. He was denied the greatest moment of his career by the fraudulent activity of a member of the opposing team, he missed the World Cup final in 1998 after being sent off in the semi-final against Croatia for elbowing Slaven Bilić, although replays showed that Bilić had clearly feigned the injury. Here, the undermining deception (Pisces) in a team situation (11th house) caused the difficulty (Chiron). This was arguably the crowning glory of an illustrious career for Blanc, and it must cause him considerable anguish to this day to have been so blatantly cheated out of the pinnacle moment of his entire life’s work.
12th House: Here, especially within its own sign of Pisces, the 12th house creates a great opportunity, for transcendence or abject self-deception. Here, institutions are configured, as are themes of retreat, solitude and service. This creates something of an imperative, because Chiron revels in selfless ideals, and the doubly Piscean connotation will be difficult to deny here. If you have Chiron in Pisces here then you will need to monitor your motives very closely; the potential for self-undoing is great. Those motivated by power, self-aggrandisement and personal ambition are very clearly likely to come unstuck and examples are many and telling. On the other hand, this is an extremely good placement for artists, poets, healers and carers. A life of devotion, humility and giving service without expectation of reward is the only sure-fire route to
Brandt: Man of the year, eventually undone by Chiron in Pisces
realising the benefits of Chiron here, and as with any placement in the 12th there is something of a karmic slant to matters here. This is where and how we must serve in this life, so Chiron here is a good placement for hospital workers, asylum staff, those devoted to religious service, for artists and so forth, but especially those motivated by an ideal rather than by financial gain or the lure of fame.
Willy Brandt, Chancellor of West Germany, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize and fierce opponent of both the Nazi and the later Soviet regimes evinced this placement. He was celebrated throughout the 1960s and 70s for his humanitarian and democratic views and his humanistic socialist leadership. All his hard work came to nothing though, since at the height of his power, scandalous allegations relating to his private life and the uncovering of a Stasi spy, who turned out to be Brandt’s personal assistant effectively ended his political ambitions. Billy Graham has this placement also, as does Barbara Hutton, heir to the Woolworth’s fortune and the archetypal “poor little rich girl” is yet another example of just how delicate Chiron’s placement here can be.
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